4 x 200mm Zip Ties Heavy Duty 8 Inch Black Nylon Cable Ties 500 Piece Wire Ties by Heavy Duty Ties

I ordered 4mm ties. For most other vendors that means the tie is 4mm wide. These have a 4mm head the tie is a tiny 2mm. They work but they are not going to hold things other 4mm ties will.

These measure about 2.25mm not 4mm. Now I have to return and wait some more so I can finish my project